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Next State Champs?

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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby odyonklin on Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:04 am

CatholicWrestling08 wrote:i respect you for what you said about our program, and i respect a select few of your wrestlers...conklin isn't one of them however, not by a long shot...


I have GOT to hear this one... ohh and wat weight do u wrestle pal?
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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby manofnodreams on Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:09 pm

To all of ya, what was the most surprising upset in the 1A through 15 match. Me it is the final match between the North Pulaski guy and the Beebe one in the 171 weight class.
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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby pin win on Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:59 pm

lets say everybody moves up 1 or 2 weight classes who will win state next year
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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby Iceman160 on Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:29 pm

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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby Don Schuler on Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:19 pm

I had hoped that some healthy discussions would happen on this board. I don't miund a little trash talk, but this is starting to get out of hand. We don't need to belittle each other.
First, as to Drew Coble, He won the championship. With 17 seconds left and down, 3-1, Drew did the only thing he could do. He rushed across the mat for a take down. When he started Cappy was 20 feet from him. Every wrestler on here knows that all he had to do was wait till drew got there and sprawl or side step. Cappy did neither. Cappy changed levels and led with his head.The head on head contact was gruesome and because Drew was moving and Cappy wasn't, Cappy took the brunt of the force. If the sequense had been illegal and Cappy had injury forfeited out, Cappy would have won. There was no foul so he lost. I was on the edge of the mat and saw everything. Drew was legitimately upset at how he won, but he had beaten Cappy 2 times in a row and this match was close. I personally believe that he has nothing to feel bad about, everybody that gets on a wrestling mat takes a chance on injury.
Secondly, I have been very impressed with Dexter's advancement in wrestling. I told Pat on Saturday that I could see him eventually wrestling division 1. I am concerned, however with his inability to deal with a loss. I am not always happy with Codys attitude and work ethic ( sorry Cody). However Cody did not cheat. If you want to wrestle on the collegiate level, you will have to contend with this style of wrestling. If you are up by 4 points in the 3rd period, it is not on you to force the action. The onus is on the other wrestler. The rules simply state that you do not have to jeopardize yourself to stay active as long as you are not fleeing, you should not be penalized. The truth is that he had all of the same opportunities in that match as Cody. In the first two periods,Cody shot more than Dexter. Once you get to the collegiate level, you will also find that they award points for riding time, so it pays to keep your opponent on his belly. When Dexter and Pat came to the coaches clinic in Rogers, Pat even said,while using Dexter as his practice partner, that you should try to keep a person down and let them keep working up to their base. His words were that you can do a minimum of work and let tyhe other guy work hard while not looking like you are stalling.
The tournament is over. Catholic will have a strong team next year. There is no need to hate Bentonville, they will come back to earth. Rogers Heritage looks like the team to beat next year anyway, and i have no love lost on that team, so don't think I am a homer for them. My son caught Mono and was not well enough to compete this year and lost his wrestle off. So I was at state, not for Bentonville, but for the AWA. Catholic will be up there. Don't hate, you have something NWA kids are jealous of, Pat Smith.
Win with Humility, Lose with grace. Or else its not worth your time. Dont That goes for all participants on this board.Dont Sully your accomplishments with accusations.I will say that I am impressed with how Drew Coble has responded to others. He didn't name call or get defensive, he just stated his case and apologized for an act that he is not responsible for. Good Job Drew.


Thanks,
Don
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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby Don Schuler on Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:30 pm

Also , I have been in constant contact this year with Aaron Swazy, assistant head wrestling coach for Neosho County Community College. He has seemed very interested in recruiting Cody.
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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby Iceman160 on Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:10 am

Probly wouldn't have said anything about drew until i saw a smart comment on facebook, i basically said that stuff about drew to get back at you. So i'll go back on what i said earlier cuz you do deserve to be the champ and i'm sorry for saying that you cheated.
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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby CatholicWrestling08 on Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:17 am

Like i said before i don't have a problem with Coble, his match had an unfortunate outcome for both.But Conklin..Your posts on here further show me why you do not deserve respect. No, not the slightest. The match between you and Dexter was obviously not how i wanted to see it, but i bet if we saw that match ten times, there would be ten completely different outcomes. I think you won fairly, you appeared to be working the entire time on top. But i never questioned you on the mat, but off of it. To tell you it straight, you embarrass Arkansas wrestling with your attitude and make a fool out of yourself,your team, and our states program.
And for what Mr.Shuler said, I agree about Rogers-Heritage, but they only have strength and numbers. Bentonville coming back to earth?God I hope so...And for NWA being jealous of us? Pat Smith may be a huge huge advantage,however both bentonville and Heritage have a thousand more kids than anybody. Even if someone does get sick or injured you can have a semi decent jv step in easy. If catholic had those kind of numbers, we would do alot better and we are already in the top three this year.
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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby odyonklin on Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:08 am

CatholicWrestling08 wrote: To tell you it straight, you embarrass Arkansas wrestling with your attitude and make a fool out of yourself,your team, and our states program.

once again... didnt really answer my question

explain the following (so i can better understand where your commin from):
wat is my attitude?

and how does it make a fool of me, my team, and the state program?
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Re: Next State Champs?

Postby Drew Coble on Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:47 pm

I don't see what makes you say that Cody gives a bad name to Arkansas wrestling, if anything he has set the standards higher and done something nobody else has in Arkansas. I'm not sure, but correct me if I'm wrong...Conklin is the only 3x undefeated state champion in Arkansas. Even if he may seem a bit disrespectful (which I do not agree with) then you need to put yourself in his shoes. Yes, it's wrong to be cocky; Cody however, is not cocky. He's jsut highly confident in his performance on the mat. If you need to settle a dispute, we settle it on the mat, and when it's over, we leave it on the mat...not over Arkansas Wrestling Forums. Anyway you look at it, Cody will be gone next year. You can stop complaining; the whole Bentonville Team will miss him, and we will miss our other seniors as well.

We will see you next year Catholic. Heritage is the team to beat now. Focus not only on one program, but watch the rising standards throughout NWA.
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